{"id":14165,"date":"2012-02-23T18:50:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-24T00:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.catholiconnection.com\/2012\/02\/did-the-appearance-of-religion-coincide-with-the-revelation-of-god-or-precede-it.html"},"modified":"2012-02-23T18:50:00","modified_gmt":"2012-02-24T00:50:00","slug":"did-the-appearance-of-religion-coincide-with-the-revelation-of-god-or-precede-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/did-the-appearance-of-religion-coincide-with-the-revelation-of-god-or-precede-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Did the Appearance of Religion Coincide with the Revelation of God or Precede It?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Before the<\/span> weekend break, in my post<\/a><\/p>\n

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 earlier, I mentioned that the<\/span> distinction between atheism and theism is probably the<\/span> most ancient and serious distinction that has been around. The<\/span> question of<\/span> when<\/i> and why<\/i> religion<\/span> began appearing on the<\/span> earth is something that has always intrigued me. Did<\/span> the<\/span> arrival of<\/span> the<\/span> practice of<\/span> religion<\/span> predate the<\/span>revelation of<\/span> God himself to humanity? How does this correlate with the<\/span> creation story of<\/span> Genesis?
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A new field of<\/span> study has started to pick up steam: Fundamental Anthropology of<\/span> Religion<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n
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, so named by Fr. Ries, a scientist and recently named honorary Cardinal. He says that man has “been religious since the<\/span> time of<\/span>Australopithecus Lucy,” and when asked for evidence from Andrea Tornielli, he says: <\/span><\/div>\n

\u201cLet us look closely at this Religious Man as we know him through historic events and facts. If we analyze the<\/span> frescos made by him which have been so far discovered in hundreds of<\/span> caves, the<\/span> thousands of<\/span> engravings he did<\/span> in stone, if we examine his behaviour towards the<\/span> dead, if we try and understand the<\/span> meaning of<\/span> his gestures,the<\/span> hands raised towards the<\/span> sky \u2013 as the<\/span> ancient Egyptians called it \u2018 Ka\u2019- we must recognize that the<\/span> primitive man had a conscious relationship with an arcane reality beyond this world\u201d.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

But why did<\/span> man stretch his arms towards the<\/span> sky? W<\/span><\/span>hen I say Adam and Eve, I am referring merely to the<\/span> first human beings in whatever stage between monkey or man or whatever time period that they existed. <\/span>Wouldn't Adam and Eve have automatically known of<\/span> God's existence before the<\/span> fall? It seems that if Genesis were taken literally, they would have known for that short period in which they behaved themselves, and afterwards their “communication line” to God would have been cut by their own actions and the<\/span>damaging of<\/span> their true nature. But even then I suppose this all depends on how you interpret Genesis. <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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The<\/span> question of<\/span> how to interpret Genesis is not a new debate, contrary to the<\/span> popular belief that Darwin's theory of<\/span> evolution caused the<\/span> book to lose credibility. In fact, St. Augustine wrote an entire book in the<\/span> third century on the<\/span> topic called “De Genesi Ad Litteram<\/i>” or “On the<\/span> Literal <\/i>[or not] Interpretation of<\/span> Genesis.<\/i>” In it he says: <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

For that reason, as I have noted repeatedly, if anyone, not understanding the<\/span> mode of<\/span> divine eloquence, should find something about these matters [about the<\/span> physical universe] in our books, or hear of<\/span> the<\/span> same from those books, of<\/span> such a kind that it seems to be at variance with the<\/span> perceptions of<\/span> his own rational faculties, let him believe that these other things are in no way necessary to the<\/span> admonitions or accounts or predictions of<\/span> the<\/span> scriptures. In short, it must be said that our authors knew the<\/span> truth about the<\/span> nature of<\/span> the<\/span> skies, but it was not the<\/span>intention of<\/span> the<\/span> Spirit of<\/span> God, who spoke through them, to teach men anything that would not be of<\/span> use to them for their salvation. St. Augustine on Evolution (De Genesi ad literam, 2:9)<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Essentially, this is making the<\/span> point again that God would have also written the<\/span> “book of<\/span> nature” as it is called and if our scientific or other observations of<\/span> nature itself appear to contradict what is written in the<\/span> divinely revealed word of<\/span> God, then it is our interpretation of<\/span> that word that is not fully on the<\/span> mark. We cannot deny what we see with our own eyes because God created nature itself. He is trying to speak to us through both. <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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The<\/span> book of<\/span> nature itself, which this college<\/a><\/p>\n
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 is trying to promote, could have easily served as tentative knowledge of<\/span> God for these people. It would have obviously be enough to spark the<\/span> search, yearning and attempts to fill the<\/span> void which they felt within themselves and through this we can come to a minimal, Pre-revelation understanding of<\/span>God. <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n


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I wish to also point out one mistake that many of<\/span> us moderns make when reading ancient literature (such as Genesis) because of<\/span> our assumption that texts are either fiction or non-fiction, to which the<\/span> scientific way of<\/span> thinking can be applied. We have to remember that we cannot apply a strict scientific analysis to the<\/span> writings of<\/span> early authors simply because many of<\/span> their histories simply do not fit into either fiction or non-fiction. The<\/span>ancients told their 'facts' or histories that they wanted to pass on through stories that were fabrictated, interesting and easily handed on. They were symbolic. Just a basic example is Hercules in Greek mythology. <\/span><\/span>

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As humanities continue to go out of<\/span> vogue in the<\/span> 21st century because they directly make less money than the<\/span> modern sciences, I would not be surprised if a few hundred years from now, there would be a couple articles written on why “There is no evidence Hercules ever actually existed<\/i>” or “Why the<\/span> Serpent Could Have Never Told Eve to Eat the<\/span> Apple Because Snakes Oral Structure Doesn't Allow for Speech<\/i>.” Yea, we get the<\/span> point. Can science even offer an opinion on how to interpret Genesis when it is purely a linguistic and metaphorical matter?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Any thoughts?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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