{"id":14213,"date":"2012-01-30T22:56:00","date_gmt":"2012-01-31T04:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.catholiconnection.com\/2012\/01\/in-depth-edward-feser-on-biological-reductionism.html"},"modified":"2012-01-30T22:56:00","modified_gmt":"2012-01-31T04:56:00","slug":"in-depth-edward-feser-on-biological-reductionism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/in-depth-edward-feser-on-biological-reductionism\/","title":{"rendered":"In Depth: Edward Feser On Biological Reductionism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: left\"><span>A few weeks ago, Edward Feser had an <a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/12\/reading-rosenberg-part-v.html\">excellent analysis<\/a>&nbsp;of reductionism in general&nbsp;through a response to Alex Rosenberg. This point is very important to the <i>Battle for the Core of the World<\/i> because so much of Christianity was founded upon and developed through the knowledge that objects have orientations or tendencies in how they behave, and this is precisely why, since the enlightenment&#039;s replacement of this belief with the approach that the parts ARE the most real part of an object (which is almost a contradiction in itself), much of the world has began to doubt not only the existence of God but also a natural law understanding of the good (morality I believe must go with it because the categorical imperative isn&#039;t so motivating by itself). I&#039;m&nbsp;inclined&nbsp;to believe that the issue the existence of teleology and the reductionist approach (used improperly when reality is limited to this viewpoint and legitimately when the knowledge derived from tentatively viewing an object this way allows us to later apply it to a <i>telos<\/i>&nbsp;(what is good for us)) &nbsp;is the defining point or &#039;continental divide&#039; if you will between a humanist\/secular approach to the world and a Catholic Christian approach.<\/span><br \/><span><br \/><\/span><br \/><span>Once &#039;wholes&#039; don&#039;t exist anymore as being actually real and they are only real insofar as there parts are, we find that we are claiming to believe something other than how we act, or even something other than how it is possible to act. We perceive wholes and cannot escape them. Anyways, I will spare you the analysis and let Feser speak: (Comments in <b><span style=\"color: blue\">blue<\/span><\/b>, emphasis in<b> bold<\/b>)<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\">\n<div style=\"background-color: white;clear: both;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-zeIC-ER6RlY\/TvrYpYZSqbI\/AAAAAAAAAao\/FWtp_dP44pA\/s1600\/Darwinian+Reductionism.jpg\" style=\"clear: left;color: #1155cc;float: left;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-right: 1em\" target=\"_blank\"><span><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-zeIC-ER6RlY\/TvrYpYZSqbI\/AAAAAAAAAao\/FWtp_dP44pA\/s1600\/Darwinian+Reductionism.jpg\" style=\"border-bottom-width: 0px;border-color: initial;border-left-width: 0px;border-right-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-top-width: 0px\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>In&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/12\/reading-rosenberg-part-iv.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">the previous installment<\/a>&nbsp;of our look at Alex Rosenberg\u2019s&nbsp;<i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Atheists-Guide-Reality-Enjoying-Illusions\/dp\/0393080234\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318829913&amp;sr=1-1\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">The Atheist\u2019s Guide to Reality<\/a><\/i>, we began to examine what Rosenberg has to say about biological phenomena.&nbsp; This time I want to take a brief detour and consider some of what Rosenberg says about the subject in his book&nbsp;<i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Darwinian-Reductionism-Worrying-Molecular-Biology\/dp\/0226727297\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324929386&amp;sr=1-1\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Darwinian Reductionism<\/a><\/i>.&nbsp; I noted that while&nbsp;<i>Atheist\u2019s Guide<\/i>&nbsp;pushes a generally uncompromising eliminative materialist line, Rosenberg resists the \u201celiminativist\u201d label where issues in the philosophy of biology are concerned, and presents his views in that field as reductionist.&nbsp;&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;(a more serious book than&nbsp;<i>Atheist\u2019s Guide<\/i>, and of independent interest) explains why.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/blogger.g?blogID=2993119803199947397\" name=\"more\" style=\"background-color: white;color: #1155cc;text-align: -webkit-auto\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><span style=\"line-height: 14px\"><\/span>I have emphasized that though Rosenberg offers no serious criticisms of theism, though his own positive philosophical claims are preposterous, and though his core argument for the scientism on which his entire position rests is worthless, he is nevertheless a more serious thinker than the likes of Richard Dawkins, Jerry Coyne, or other New Atheists.&nbsp; The reason is that Rosenberg is more consistent than these other writers, and he is more consistent because he understands (as they do not) the grave philosophical challenges facing naturalism.&nbsp;<b> In particular, he understands that a consistent naturalist must take a radically eliminativist line vis-\u00e0-vis intentionality <span style=\"color: blue\">[This is a very key point]<\/span> &#8212; that the naturalist must deny that meaning of&nbsp;<i>any<\/i>&nbsp;sort exists,&nbsp;<i>even at the level of human thought and language<\/i>.<\/b>&nbsp; And he understands that the reason why the naturalist must take this line is that it follows from the claim that there is no teleology or final causality inherent in the natural order.&nbsp; Or at least, once you make that anti-Aristotelian move &#8212; a move which (as&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism\/dp\/1587314525\/ref=pd_sim_b_59\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">I have argued at length<\/a>) was definitive of modern philosophy &#8212;&nbsp;<i>and<\/i>&nbsp;you affirm also that the natural order is all that exists, there is no way consistently to affirm that intentionality is a real feature of the world.&nbsp; For intentionality essentially involves \u201cdirectedness\u201d toward an object, as a thought is \u201cdirected\u201d toward what the thought is about or a word is \u201cdirected\u201d toward what the word means.&nbsp; And to deny that there is any teleology or final causality immanent to the natural order just is to deny that there is any \u201cdirectedness\u201d of any sort in it <b><span style=\"color: blue\">[Essentially he is saying you cannot&nbsp;straddle&nbsp;the fence when it comes to believing in purpose. Either the tendency\/orientation of objects exists or it exists merely in our heads, there is no gray area where it exists in some objects and not others]<\/span><\/b>&#8212; that there is anything that points beyond itself to some end, goal, or object.&nbsp; (For more on intentionality, see the relevant posts among&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/05\/mind-body-problem-roundup.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">my many posts on the mind-body problem<\/a>.)<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"background-color: white;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><b>The intentionality of words is commonly said to be&nbsp;<i>derived<\/i><\/b>, insofar as, apart from human interpreters and their linguistic conventions, the sounds and ink squiggles we think of as words would be entirely devoid of meaning.&nbsp; \u201cThe cat is on the mat\u201d would, apart from us, have no more semantic content than \u201cblah blah blah.\u201d&nbsp; The intentionality of a thought, by contrast, is commonly said to be&nbsp;<i>original<\/i>&nbsp;insofar as it is inherent to our thoughts in a way it is not inherent to words.&nbsp; We use otherwise meaningless ink squiggles and noises to convey meaning, but no one is using our thoughts as instruments to convey meaning.&nbsp; They just have it, and are the source of the meaning of words and the like.&nbsp; The eliminativist is committed to the claim that not only what we think of as words, but even our thoughts are really as meaningless as \u201cblah blah blah\u201d is.&nbsp; For if original intentionality exists, then there exists something<b> irreducibly<\/b> \u201cdirected\u201d toward an object, which there can\u2019t be if there is no teleology in nature.&nbsp; And without original intentionality, no derived intentionality can exist either.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>This position informs&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Naturalism<\/i>, where Rosenberg writes:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">The problem of naturalistically explaining the original intentionality of the human (and infrahuman) brain is perhaps the most serious fundamental challenge facing neuroscience and its philosophy.&nbsp; No one has yet solved it\u2026&nbsp; Indeed, if human intentionality turns out to be derived from some evolutionary process as yet unimagined (and it will have to be unimagined so far, if it is to prove \u201cunmysterious\u201d), it will turn out that both artifacts and genomes will be on a par, neither of them deriving their intentionality directly from something with nonderived intentionality, and both tracing their intentionality back to evolution by natural selection.&nbsp; Of course, as I indicated above, I am dubious that natural selection can actually produce original intentionality in the brain or anywhere else, and so it cannot produce derived intentionality either.&nbsp; Both will, on my view, turn out to be illusions, like the purposes we overlay on nature and that natural selection has dispelled.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">&nbsp;(p. 108)<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">As I have said, I think this eliminativist position is the one a consistent naturalist has to take.&nbsp; For to say that \u201cdirectedness\u201d<\/span><b style=\"line-height: 14px\"> is real but external to the natural order is essentially to adopt a Cartesian position<\/b><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">; while to say that it is real and intrinsic to the natural order is essentially to return to an Aristotelian position.<\/span><span style=\"color: blue\"><b><span style=\"line-height: 14px\"> [This is the Continental divide that is so significant. Why should I call it a divide? Once water lands on one side or the other, it will trickle downhill towards either atheism or theism, the logical conclusions of either point of view. There is a lot that is needed to back this claim up, which may be presented in due time. Theism and reductionism are not logically exclusive but it would require the theist&#039;s belief in God to be based on faith merely on faith (which many appear to be quite happy with&#8230;) and can&#039;t be considered science in the original sense of the word (<\/span><i style=\"line-height: 14px\">scientia<\/i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">&#8211;knowledge). In the same way, seeing the teleology of objects does require one to believe in a causa causarum (cause of call causes) unless by the &#039;exception&#039;&nbsp;of atheistic faith]<\/span><\/b><\/span><span style=\"line-height: 14px\"> &nbsp;And either way, naturalism will have been abandoned.&nbsp; A serious naturalist, then, either has to find some way out of this dilemma &#8212; the dilemma of having to choose either eliminativism or some form of anti-naturalism &#8212; or follow Rosenberg in adopting eliminativism and then try to find a way to make eliminativism something other than the incoherent mess that I (and many others) have argued that it is.&nbsp; Whatever his faults, Rosenberg faces up to the problem in a way that&nbsp;<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/05\/coyne-on-intentionality.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc;line-height: 14px\" target=\"_blank\">ignorant hacks like Coyne<\/a><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">&nbsp;do not.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Or at least he does where the mind is concerned.&nbsp; While his position also entails (as I suggested in&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/12\/reading-rosenberg-part-iv.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">my previous post<\/a>) a kind of eliminativism about organic phenomena, Rosenberg in general tries, as I have said, to hew to a less radical, reductionist line in the philosophy of biology.&nbsp; Not that even that line isn\u2019t radical.&nbsp; Rosenberg\u2019s complaint in&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;is that most of his fellow naturalists are not sufficiently reductionist.&nbsp; Like him, they tend to be physicalists, holding that the physical facts fix all the facts; but unlike him, most of them resist reductionism in biology.&nbsp; Rosenberg (rightly, in my view) regards this position as incoherent.&nbsp; But rather than taking that as a reason to abandon physicalism (which is what it is), he takes it as a reason to endorse reductionism (committed as he is to physicalism &#8212; though there is even less in the way of argument for physicalism in&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;than there is in&nbsp;<i>Atheist\u2019s Guide<\/i>).&nbsp; His aim in&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;is to argue that biological reductionism does not have the unhappy implications that have led other naturalists to resist it.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>One of those implications is that reductionism would seem to conflict with the evident fact that where biological phenomena are concerned, \u201cthe whole is more than the sum of its parts.\u201d&nbsp; Rosenberg maintains that the sense in which this slogan is true is a sense perfectly consistent with reductionism.&nbsp; He offers the wetness of water as an example of a feature that the parts of a whole do not have &#8212; individual H<sub>2<\/sub>O molecules are not wet &#8212; but which is nevertheless reducible to relations between the parts.&nbsp; And purportedly irreducible biological phenomena (Rosenberg implies) are no different.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Now since it is the distinctively&nbsp;<i>organic<\/i>&nbsp;properties of biological phenomena that are supposed to pose a challenge to reductionism, appealing to the wetness of water hardly addresses the biological antireductionist\u2019s concerns.&nbsp; Moreover, the claim that even water and its properties are \u201creducible\u201d to H<sub>2<\/sub>O molecules and their relations is more controversial than Rosenberg (and many other naturalists) suppose.&nbsp; (See e.g. Oderberg\u2019s&nbsp;<i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Essentialism-Routledge-Studies-Contemporary-Philosophy\/dp\/041587212X\/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324939846&amp;sr=1-1-spell\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Real Essentialism<\/a><\/i>&nbsp;and van Brakel\u2019s&nbsp;<i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Philosophy-Chemistry-Manifest-Scientific-Philosophical\/dp\/9058670635\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324939894&amp;sr=1-1\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Philosophy of Chemistry<\/a><\/i>&nbsp;for discussion of the relevant issues.)&nbsp; But let\u2019s leave all that aside and consider Rosenberg\u2019s response to the specific objection that the&nbsp;<i>feeling<\/i>&nbsp;of wetness isn\u2019t reducible to relations between H<sub>2<\/sub>O molecules:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">But the feeling of wetness is a complex relation between the molecules and our neurological system &#8212; more molecules, of course.&nbsp; It\u2019s not an isolated property of the water.&nbsp; Reducing the&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">feeling&nbsp;<i>of wetness of water is another matter altogether different from reducing its wetness.&nbsp; Reducing feelings, sensations, is one that science has yet to accomplish, owing to the incompleteness of our understanding of neurology.&nbsp; But it would be blatantly question-begging to assert that no macromolecular &#8212; that is, reductionistic &#8212; explanation of our sensations can ever be provided.&nbsp; Making such an unargued assumption is very far from taking on the burden of proof.&nbsp; It is, in fact, a matter of shifting the burden of proof onto the reductionist, and demanding an impossibly high standard of proof: that science should complete the reduction of human neurology in order to show that the wetness of water is equal to the relations among molecules.&nbsp; Although reductionists cannot accept so high a standard, they can and do argue that the whole history of science since the seventeenth century has been a continuing empirical vindication of reductionism.<\/i>&nbsp;(p. 13)<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Now, I do not necessarily have a problem with the suggestion that the feeling of wetness is a complex relation between water itself and our nervous systems, nor with the idea that the feeling is a material feature of the human organism (though my own, Aristotelian conception of \u201cmatter\u201d is not the same as Rosenberg\u2019s materialist conception, and \u201cmolecules\u201d are certainly not the whole story).&nbsp; But the rest of this passage reflects a delusion common in those beholden to naturalism, scientism, and (by extension) modern atheism &#8212; the \u201cpicture that holds them captive,\u201d as Wittgenstein might have put it.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>This delusion &#8212; the delusion that \u201cscience has now explained everything else, and so it\u2019s only a matter of time before it explains X (where X = qualia, or intentionality, or some other feature which poses a difficulty for naturalism)\u201d &#8212; is one I have elsewhere called&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2009\/06\/materialist-shell-game.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cthe materialist shell game,\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;and it works like this.&nbsp; <b>First, \u201cscience\u201d is (implicitly if not explicitly) defined in such a way that no explanation that makes reference to irreducibly teleological or qualitative features of the world is&nbsp;<\/b><i style=\"font-weight: bold\">allowed to count<\/i><b>&nbsp;as \u201cscientific.\u201d<\/b><span style=\"color: blue\"><b> [Want a recent example? <a href=\"http:\/\/battleforthecoreoftheworld.blogspot.com\/2012\/01\/england-metaphysics-banned-from-schools.html\">Look HERE<\/a>.] <\/b><\/span><b>Second, seemingly irreducibly teleological and qualitative features of the world &#8212; apparently goal-directed natural processes, say, or colors, sounds, heat, cold, and the like as these manifest themselves to ordinary experience &#8212; are re-described as mere projections of the mind onto external reality and&nbsp;<\/b><i style=\"font-weight: bold\">not allowed to count<\/i><b><span style=\"color: blue\">&nbsp;<\/span>as truly \u201cmaterial.\u201d<span style=\"color: blue\"> [Why? It is not useful to count them as such, they contribute nothing to our immediate manipulation of material reality for technology and these features are often confused with &nbsp;truly subjective properties. If a man is color blind and sees red as green, is he seeing red or green. The answer is that he is seeing green because the nature of color is based in the perception of it. However this does not mean that the light waves, by their very nature, should be considered entirely without a reality because it is in the nature of our eyes to perceive the lightwaves in a certain way. This tendency to REALLY see red when our eyes are functioning properly should not be considered any less real just because one eye is not functioning according to its nature. Now of course the next question, is what right do you have to say that the eye has a nature then?]<\/span><\/b>&nbsp; Teleology, color, sound, heat, and cold as we experience them do not (so the story goes) really exist in the material world itself, but only in our subjective mental representations of it; objectively there are only colorless, soundless, purposeless particles in motion, which by virtue of their motions cause us to experience them&nbsp;<i>as if<\/i>&nbsp;they had the characteristics common sense attributes to them. &nbsp;(Color, sound, etc. as&nbsp;<i>physical&nbsp;<\/i>properties are accordingly also re-defined, in terms of surface reflectance properties, compression waves, and the like.) &nbsp;Third, it then asserted that \u201cscience has explained\u201d such-and-such external material phenomena in a way that makes no reference to irreducible teleological or qualitative features.&nbsp; What is not acknowledged is that this claim is a<i>tautology<\/i>, since (again) nothing that made reference to such features would be allowed to&nbsp;<i>count<\/i>&nbsp;as \u201cscientific,\u201d and (again) no features that couldn\u2019t be described in non-teleological and non-qualitative terms would be allowed to&nbsp;<i>count<\/i>&nbsp;as \u201cmaterial.\u201d&nbsp; Fourth, it is fallaciously inferred that since this methodological sleight of hand has \u201cshown\u201d that irreducibly teleological and qualitative features do not exist in the external material world, we have every reason to believe that it will also \u201cshow\u201d that they do not exist in the mind either &#8212; that they will either be reduced to non-teleological and non-qualitative features of the brain, or eliminated altogether.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><b>This is like saying that since we have gotten rid of all the dirt in the room by sweeping it under the rug, we have good reason to think that the dirt under the rug can also be gotten rid of in the same way, and even for thinking that it never really existed in the room in the first place.<\/b>&nbsp; &nbsp;Such an argument would be doubly farcical.&nbsp; For first of all, none of the original dirt has really been gotten rid of at all, but merely relocated.&nbsp; And second, the \u201csweep it under the rug\u201d method is for obvious reasons the one method that&nbsp;<i>cannot in principle<\/i>&nbsp;work when applied to the dirt under the rug itself.&nbsp; Those naturalists &#8212; and they are like the sands of the sea for multitude &#8212; who confidently appeal to the historical \u201csuccess\u201d of scientific reductionism in providing \u201creductive explanations\u201d of \u201ceverything else,\u201d as evidence that the mind too is bound to yield to the same mode of explanation, are committing a fallacy no less egregious.&nbsp; (And&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2011\/11\/reading-rosenberg-part-ii.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">we have already seen<\/a>&nbsp;why an appeal to the&nbsp;<i>predictive and technological<\/i>&nbsp;virtues of the methodological stipulations in question is no less fallacious if intended to establish the&nbsp;<i>metaphysical<\/i>&nbsp;completeness of the reductionist\u2019s picture of the world.)<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>In&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;no less than in&nbsp;<i>Atheist\u2019s Guide<\/i>, then, the scientism that undergirds Rosenberg\u2019s entire position rests on little more than an appeal to ill-founded contemporary academic prejudice.&nbsp; But there are other problems too.&nbsp; As I have indicated in earlier posts in this series, one problem with reductionist and eliminativist accounts of this or that natural phenomenon is that they fail to do justice to the irreducible causal powers (arguably) manifested by the phenomenon.&nbsp; In the case at hand, a reductionist account of biological phenomena would seem implicitly to deny that there are any genuine causal powers at anything higher than the molecular level, and thus seems to entail eliminativism about the biological (as, in my previous post, I suggested Rosenberg\u2019s position does).<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>In response to this sort of objection (which, as he notes, parallels what is called the \u201ccausal drainage argument\u201d in the philosophy of mind, since reductionism seems to make causal power at all higher levels of reality \u201cdrain away\u201d to the lowest physical level), Rosenberg tells us that \u201creductionism does not deny that biological kinds have causal powers &#8212; the physical ones; it reveals them\u201d since \u201c\u2019higher-order\u2019 [functional] terms\u2026 name the same properties which \u2018lower-order\u2019 &#8212; macromolecular &#8212; terms name\u201d (p. 196).&nbsp; In other words, it\u2019s not that biological phenomena lack causal powers; it\u2019s that they have no causal powers over and above those of their molecular parts, no powers that are not \u201cphysical powers,\u201d which are \u201cthe only causal powers there are\u201d (Ibid.)&nbsp; For biological or functional terms, Rosenberg claims, \u201cdo not identify distinct \u2018higher-level\u2019 kinds with distinct \u2018higher-level\u2019 causal properties.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>This is like saying that Feuerbach\u2019s conception of God as a mere projection, or Freud\u2019s theory of religion as wish-fulfillment, are not&nbsp;<i>really<\/i>&nbsp;forms of atheism, but are rather merely \u201creductionist\u201d versions of theism which do not \u201celiminate\u201d God but merely \u201creveal\u201d the true nature of His causal relationship to the world.&nbsp; Obviously, to say that a \u201chigher-level\u201d term like \u201cGod\u201d does not \u201cidentify a distinct \u2018higher-level\u2019 kind with distinct \u2018higher-level\u2019 causal properties\u201d but instead names \u201cthe same properties which \u2018lower-level\u2019 terms name\u201d &#8212; viz. human psychological properties like projection and wishful thinking &#8212; would just be a roundabout way of saying that there&nbsp;<i>is no<\/i>&nbsp;God and that only the psychological processes themselves are real.&nbsp; Similarly, to say that biological terms do not really name any kinds or causal powers over and above the molecular ones is just a roundabout way of saying that the biological kinds and causal powers do not exist and only the molecular ones do.&nbsp; Rosenberg\u2019s biological reductionism &#8212; like the bogus Feuerbachian or Freudian \u201creductionist\u201d \u201ctheism\u201d just described, like reductionism in the philosophy of mind, and indeed like reductionism generally &#8212; really is just a thinly disguised eliminativism.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><b>Except, that is, when it is a thinly disguised Aristotelianism.<\/b>&nbsp; In one of the more interesting sections of&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>, Rosenberg addresses the question of whether genes really can be said to carry \u201cinformation\u201d and to embody \u201cprograms,\u201d as they are commonly said to do.&nbsp; As I emphasize in&nbsp;<i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism\/dp\/1587314525\/ref=pd_sim_b_59\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">The Last Superstition<\/a><\/i>, this sort of talk doesn\u2019t sit well with the naturalist\u2019s official rejection of immanent teleology.&nbsp; Now, some philosophers of biology regard talk of \u201cprograms\u201d and \u201cinformation\u201d (in anything but the thin Shannonian sense of \u201cinformation\u201d) as merely metaphorical.&nbsp; But as Rosenberg indicates, the problem cannot be so easily evaded:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">Molecular biology is, of course, riddled with intentional expressions: we attribute properties such as being a<\/span><\/i><span style=\"line-height: 14px\">messenger<i>&nbsp;(\u201csecond messenger\u201d) or a&nbsp;<\/i>recognition<i>&nbsp;site; we ascribe&nbsp;<\/i>proofreading<i>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<\/i>editing<i>&nbsp;capabilities; and we say that enzymes can&nbsp;<\/i>discriminate<i>&nbsp;among substrates\u2026 Even more tellingly, as we have seen, molecular developmental biology describes cells as having \u201cpositional information,\u201d meaning that they&nbsp;<\/i>know<i>&nbsp;where they are relative to other cells and gradients.&nbsp; The naturalness of the intentional idiom in molecular biology presents a problem.&nbsp; All these expressions and ascriptions involve the representation, in one thing, of the way things are in another thing\u2026&nbsp; The naturalness of this idiom in molecular biology is so compelling that merely writing it off as a metaphor seems implausible.&nbsp; Be that as it may, when it comes to information in the genome, the claim manifestly cannot be merely metaphorical, not, at any rate, if the special role of the gene is to turn on its information content.&nbsp; But to have a real informational role, the genome must have intentional states.<\/i>&nbsp;(pp. 99-100)<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>But how&nbsp;<i>can<\/i>&nbsp;a naturalist accept such descriptions of biological phenomena as more than metaphorical <b><span style=\"color: blue\">[This is exactly what I would talk to him about if we were face to face.]&nbsp;<\/span><\/b>&#8212; especially a naturalist like Rosenberg, who takes an eliminativist line on intentionality?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Rosenberg\u2019s solution is to split the difference.&nbsp; \u201cThe crucial question,\u201d he says, \u201cis not intentionality but programming\u201d (p. 108).&nbsp; What does this mean?&nbsp; Rosenberg rehearses John Searle\u2019s famous&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/chinese-room\/\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Chinese Room thought experiment<\/a>, and allows at least for the sake of argument that it shows that running a program is not sufficient to generate original intentionality.&nbsp; But even if the intentionality of a program is at most derived, the program can still be efficacious.&nbsp; After all, Searle in the Chinese Room still gives out the right answers in response to questions put to him, even though he has no idea what the symbols he\u2019s manipulating mean; and he does so by virtue of running a program.&nbsp; Therefore (Rosenberg seems to infer), we can say that&nbsp;<i>genes<\/i>&nbsp;embody programs, and do their distinctive work by virtue of embodying them, even if we deny that they really possess original intentionality.&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>The trouble with this is that it takes account of only half, and the less important half, of Searle\u2019s critique of computationalism.&nbsp; The Chinese Room argument shows only that computationalism cannot be the&nbsp;<b><i>whole<\/i>&nbsp;story about the mind<\/b>. <b><span style=\"color: blue\">[It can be part&#8230;the material and efficient causes]<\/span><\/b> &nbsp;But&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/mywebspace.wisc.edu\/lshapiro\/web\/Phil554_files\/SEARLE-BDC.HTM\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Searle\u2019s later argument<\/a>&nbsp;against what he calls \u201ccognitivism\u201d &#8212; the thesis that the brain is a digital computer (as distinct from the thesis that the mind is the software run on the computer) &#8212; is intended to show that it isn\u2019t even&nbsp;<i>part<\/i>&nbsp;of the story.&nbsp; If the Chinese Room argument succeeds, it shows that even if the brain is running programs, it could not possess original intentionality&nbsp;<i>merely<\/i>&nbsp;by virtue of running them.&nbsp; The later argument purports to show that the brain is not in any interesting sense running programs in the first place.&nbsp; For being a \u201cprogram\u201d is not (Searle argues) an observer-independent feature of the world; it does not capture anything intrinsic to the physics of a system.&nbsp; A physical system \u201cruns a program\u201d&nbsp;<i>only relative to an interpreter<\/i>, who&nbsp;<i>uses<\/i>&nbsp;the system to run the program, just as ink squiggles and sounds count as words only relative to an interpreter who uses the squiggles or sounds to convey meaning.&nbsp; And since no one is literally \u201cusing\u201d the brain to run programs &#8212; no one is literally saying of each of our brains \u201cLet\u2019s let this brain process count as such-and-such a symbol, let\u2019s let that brain process count as such-and-such a transition between symbols, and so forth\u201d &#8212; the brain is not running them.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Now as I argue in&nbsp;<i>The Last Superstition <\/i><span style=\"color: blue\"><b>[I highly recommend his book for anyone at any level of philosophy]<\/b><\/span><i>&nbsp;<\/i>, one could resist Searle\u2019s conclusion here, but not in a way that helps the naturalist.&nbsp; If we say that computationalist descriptions of the brain capture&nbsp;<i>real, objective<\/i>&nbsp;features of the brain, then we are implicitly committed to an Aristotelian conception of matter.&nbsp; For the notion of a program is<i>teleological<\/i>; and teleology that is&nbsp;<i>intrinsic<\/i>&nbsp;to a material system is just&nbsp;<i>Aristotelian, immanent final causality<\/i>.&nbsp; As Searle emphasizes, we could in principle attribute all sorts of programs to all sorts of physical systems &#8212; to use one of his examples, there is a possible interpretation of the microstructure of the wall in his room on which it is running Wordstar.&nbsp; To say that some&nbsp;<i>particular<\/i>&nbsp;attribution is privileged, that a physical system is, apart from our interests, running&nbsp;<i>such-and-such<\/i>&nbsp;a program and not the others, is to say that its states inherently \u201cpoint\u201d to the realization of that program rather than to the others. &nbsp;(The Aristotelian implications of computationalist descriptions of nature have also been noted by&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sas.upenn.edu\/~jross\/aristotlesrevenge.htm\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">James Ross<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/computers-minds-and-aristotle.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Valentino Braitenberg<\/a>.)<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>This puts Rosenberg in a dilemma.&nbsp; If he wants to insist that matter is utterly devoid of any inherent teleology &#8212; his official general metaphysical position &#8212; then (given Searle\u2019s critique of cognitivism) he is not entitled to attribute programs of any sort to genes.&nbsp; If instead he wants to insist that genes really do embody programs even apart from human interests &#8212; his official position on this specific issue &#8212; then he has to acknowledge that something like Aristotelian final causality is a real feature of the world after all.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>Rosenberg misses the Aristotelian implications of his position because he evidently thinks that the only alternative to reductionism and eliminativism in philosophy of biology is vitalism.&nbsp; But vitalism is like Cartesian dualism in the philosophy of mind, or the extrinsic, \u201cwatchmaker\u201d model of teleology represented by Paley\u2019s \u201cdesign argument\u201d &#8212; it is a&nbsp;<i>corruption<\/i>&nbsp;of the Aristotelian-Scholastic views the moderns sought to replace, even if a corruption that is sometimes mistakenly&nbsp;<i>read back into<\/i>&nbsp;those older views.&nbsp; For the Aristotelian, the right way to think about the soul is in hylemorphic terms, as the form of the living body, not as a complete substance in its own right&nbsp;<i>a la<\/i>&nbsp;Descartes\u2019&nbsp;<i>res cogitans<\/i>.&nbsp; The right way to think about teleology is as immanent to the natural order, on the model of organic phenomena rather than on the model of machines.&nbsp; And the right way to think about life is also in hylemorphic terms, as the possession of a certain kind of formal cause, not as a spooky kind of \u201cforce\u201d or&nbsp;<i>elan vital<\/i>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>(Rosenberg also seems to think that intentionality-with-a-t entails intensionality-with-an-s, so that since &#8212; he argues &#8212; genes do not exhibit the latter, neither do they have the former.&nbsp; As&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=z-g56zm-apoC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=tim+crane+the+mechanical+mind&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=Vaj6TqL2OIfZiAK_pPmMDQ&amp;ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=tim%20crane%20the%20mechanical%20mind&amp;f=false\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">Tim Crane<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/intentionality\/#8\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">others<\/a>&nbsp;have emphasized, though &#8212; and as I noted in&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/stoljar-on-intentionality.html\" style=\"color: #1155cc\" target=\"_blank\">an earlier post<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; intensionality-with-an-s is not essential to intentionality-with-a-t.&nbsp; What is essential is just directedness toward an object, which a thing can exhibit even if we can give a non-intensional description its directedness.)<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"background-color: white;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-left: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-top: 0px;text-align: -webkit-auto\"><span>So, Rosenberg\u2019s attempt to find a reductionist middle ground in the philosophy of biology fails.&nbsp; His position is unstable, equivocating between eliminativism on the one hand and Aristotelian anti-reductionism on the other.&nbsp; But there is a lot more to&nbsp;<i>Darwinian Reductionism<\/i>&nbsp;than I have been able to convey here, and in particular much to make it a more serious and interesting book than&nbsp;<i>Atheist\u2019s Guide<\/i>.&nbsp; As a philosopher of religion, and as an<i>apologist<\/i>&nbsp;for naturalism, Rosenberg is hopeless.&nbsp; But as a philosopher of science and an&nbsp;<i>interpreter<\/i>&nbsp;of naturalism, he is consistently interesting.&nbsp; Both naturalists and their critics need to take him seriously.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span>I might just start referring to this as the continental divide from now on&#8230;.some one needs to write a book on this. Unfortunately many people, without ever reading Kant, assume that his conclusions of the impossibility of&nbsp;metaphysics&nbsp;as a science are correct. I&#039;m not saying that they aren&#039;t but its important to not take a historicist approach&#8230;Kant came after Aristotle therefore Kant is correct. The problems need to be thought through because unfortunately philosophy doesn&#039;t always work the same way technology does&#8230;.the latest is the greatest. I can name a few taking this approach in this past century that cost of few hundred million lives&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholiconnection.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/blogger\/-Lc1RPa7Rm1Q\/TydoA3hZpNI\/AAAAAAACBO0\/dz7Eel1dSBc\/s1600\/418134_603214283030_144902349_32244771_759670818_n.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"240\" src=\"http:\/\/www.catholiconnection.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/blogger\/-Lc1RPa7Rm1Q\/TydoA3hZpNI\/AAAAAAACBO0\/dz7Eel1dSBc\/s320\/418134_603214283030_144902349_32244771_759670818_n.jpg\" width=\"320\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><span><br \/><\/span><br \/><span><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few weeks ago, Edward Feser had an excellent analysis&nbsp;of reductionism in general&nbsp;through a response to Alex Rosenberg. This point is very important to the Battle for the Core of the World because so much of Christianity was founded upon and developed through the knowledge that objects have orientations or tendencies in how they behave, [&#8230;]\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":15048,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[63,49,64,65,21,66,55,67,68,10],"class_list":["post-14213","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-philosophy","tag-alex-rosenberg","tag-atheism","tag-blogging","tag-chinese-room","tag-classical-philosophy","tag-darwinian-reductionism","tag-empiricism","tag-metaphysics","tag-modern-science","tag-philosophy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14213","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14213"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14213\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14213"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14213"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonhaines.com\/philosophy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14213"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}